Thursday, May 31, 2007

GOTD May 31

Today pretty standard GOTD, walked up to two personal trainers at my gym and asked them what made them decide to become one, and the guy talked to me the whole time, while the girl didn't say anything, well I still count that was a GOTD :D

Next one was just a girl walking outside my gym, so asked her the johnny depp qs, and she seemed pretty into the discussion, so was good.

Anyway, 2 approaches today, plus talked more to the other two girls which I met previously in my gym.

One of the girl, let's call her M, I learn something from my interaction with her. When I walked up to her, I got sucked into her conversation. That was when she started asking me questions and I started answering. One thing I thing I need to do is to control the conversation with the girl. Don't let her lead too much by asking you all the questions, because it will make her lose attraction for you. Even if she starts asking, just give a short answer, and start leading the convo.

Tuesday, May 29, 2007

Phone Game with #close on Sat night

I realise one thing about my phone game today, I think it sucks :(

I really need to work on this, and because of that I vow to get as many # closes as possible while I go out during Fri and Saturday nights.

Anyway, here are some of the things which I think I need to improve on or what I noticed about my phone game.

1) When I called, she's going out while I'm at home, so it's like she's doing something more fun than I am.
2) No flirting at all, no sexual tension.
3) I need to get comfortable talking with ABCs and aussies. They seem to speak more fluently than me and I tend to get intimidated ? somehow...
4) Have to improve my story telling skills, the stories that I told pretty much not very interesting.
5) Have to get more #s to practice on.
6) She was controlling the conversation, she asked the questions, I answered... etc..

Well, I actually felt kind of relief after the phone call, because I realise all the things which I need to improve and that I STEPPED UP and made the call. CONGRATULATIONS to myself on having made the call and got blown out! YEAH!

GOTD Tuesday

Approached two girls today,

one outside the gym, asked about Johnny Depp and Orlando Bloom, funny thing is I realize that all aussies like Johnny Depp while asian chicks like Orlando Bloom.. Hmm strange

Next one in the lift, at work.

2 approaches today, GOOD WORK!

Saturday night FR

Friday GOTD -> some girl at the gym, can't remember the details, I think it was the girl jogs like crazy on the treadmill.

Saturday FR
Tonight I met up with a fellow PUA from the Sarge forum. This guy is really good, we kept a good vibe all throughout and went to this lounge in the city called On Der Ground. I think it was asian night or something that night, but anyway, I opened a total of about 5 sets here.

First set, blowout, girl outright told me that the table's booked, basically asking me to scram!

Second set, girl wasn't too chatty..

Same with third set, for the third set I engaged the group more, but similarly group wasn't very chatty.

Fourth set was a girl near the bar, played the lying game with her. Tried to do the finger cold read but she didn't bite.

Fifth set was a one guy one girl set, and that's when I got my first number close. Number is pretty solid, and the girl even bought me a drink. :D Many thanks to my wing for helping me pull this off. Then my wing and I left for the next venue.

Next venue was Transport. I opened one set here, music was pretty loud, opened a guy and girl set, didn't really go anywhere so ejected. We left Transport after this.

Next venue was Elephant and Wheelbarrow. I opened 3 sets here, first was pretty good, but again I felt like I couldn't carry on the convo, so ejected. Next girl wasn't chatty, Third was a group of hippies, and they were easy to talk to, but wasn't really into chatting with the dude, so ejected.

After that we left and tried to find another bar in Fitzroy but got lost, so came back to the city and split after that. All in all a good night's work of 9 approaches. :D

Things I need to improve on
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1) Carrying on convo with aussies. Somehow I don't feel comfortable talking with them and carrying on conversations. Not too sure why, but I definitely have to work on this.
2) Storytelling skills.
3) Need to work on my phone game. Just called the girl that I got my # close, but didn't go anywhere because there was absolutely no sexual tension at all, and she was controlling the conversation the whole time.

Thursday, May 24, 2007

GOTD May 24

Today is really really good! I don't know why but for the first time in my life, there is absolutely NO approach anxiety. NONE! Here's how it went and how I think I can make it better and some lessons that I learned from it.

(Girl reading some book at the book stand with earphones on)
Me: (walk up to her and pause, she turns around, and I do the beckoning move for her to remove her earphones) Hi, You don't know me, but I thought I'd just ask you about something.
Her: Oh hi,
Me: I was having this discussion with a friend, and she was telling me that to understand girls better, you have to go read cleo and cosmo, while some girls say that's crap, and they like to read new idea and who weekly.
Her: laughs etc..

Then we start to exchange ideas about what girls and guys are like blah blah. Then she asked me what guys are like and I said.

Me: Guys like pretty objects.

This is when I made my mistake, previously while discussing about guys and girls, she mentioned that she thought that guys like pretty objects, and I reinforced her idea here which is my mistake. Shortly after this, she says, well I have to go and she leaves. I think it was because of my answer that made that happen, because I was pretty sure that a while back, she was HOOKED.

Anyway, here's what I think I did well :) Firstly, totally calm, no fear, and spoke with a good clear voice. I knew that I was going to make her smile, so I had totally no fear. I also think that I'm beginning to get comfortable in making lines work. I can see how to make it work and so I am becoming more confident in delivering these lines.

The one thing I did bad was putting guys in a light which is not that good which reflects back on me. What I should have said was that guys secretly want to meet a girl with a great personality, and who's fun, but then somehow all these girls keep treating guys like a piece of meat. etc..
something along those lines.

Oh well, every rejection is feedback, and this will make me stronger and better ! YES!

Wednesday, May 23, 2007

GOTD May 23rd

Today's a pretty good day,

I did two approaches!! YESSSSS, the first one's just a girl waiting for a friend, so I just tried to teased her that it was because the weather's cold, and that's why she's hiding indoors in a place she's not supposed to be. Well, that didn't go too far, and that was that. But it was a good first approach to get me chatty.

The next one's in the Gym. I'm beginning to get the hang of approaching girls in the gym. It is all about timing and a bit of luck. This time I had some pretty bad approach anxiety, because I broke the 3 s rule by about 1 hour. Anyway, there was this girl that I wanted to talk to, and I almost made the mistake of doing the "secret stalking". The one where a guy follows the girl around the gym etc..

Anyway, I was lucky enough to cross path with her while she was going to her next exercise, and I opened with:

Me: Excuse me, (pause) I thought I'd be friendly, so I wanted to come and say Hi.
Her: oh HI.

Blah blah, the next was just some small talk, she said I looked young, so I told her about my theory of how guys like to appear older and girls like to appear younger. Anyway, she seems pretty hooked as well.

Improvements:
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I think my improvements today should be in my voice. I noticed my voice isn't the best today, some hints of nervousness was coming through my voice, and it wasn't very clear and loud enough. I chatted with the gym girl that I usually see, today as well, and my voice wasn't all that great too. Anyway, something to notice and fix with time.

Monday, May 21, 2007

GOTD 21st May

Hello again,

Last weekend, was pretty alright, didn't do any approaches, eventhough I went out to some bars and some clubs. Even noticed some girls checking me out while I was there too! Which makes me feel pretty good and validated :)

Anyway, today's GOTD was a pretty simple one. Saw a girl walking by, immediately say, Hey.. with a slight pause, while looking at her, then continued with "You must be a commerce student right?" I guessed correctly, so she stopped for a while and chatted with me. I think it was my combination of body language and probably correct guess that she stopped.

I didn't take this one too far because I guess, I wasn't really into it. The main lesson that I took away from this was the use of body language, and using cold reading statements to make someone curious enough to stop for a while to talk with you.

GOTD May 17th

Today, I met with the gym girl that I talked to the other day, had another good vibe with her, but I noticed when I was chatting with her that she sort of pulled back, a bit of a restraint, so I stopped talking. At first I thought it was because she wanted to focus on her exercise, which she was doing. So I stopped talking, and while I was taking my rest, I waited for her to reopen me, she looked as if she would, and was considering to, but then turned away. Later I saw her walking off with another guy, (presumably her bf) while waving goodbye at me.

Anyway, I opened a group of 2 girls with the same opener, the first girl giggled, and asked the other girl to talk to me, well, I didn't chat much with them just felt good that I opened for the second time in the Gym. Pretty soon I'll be comfortable with this! :)

Wednesday, May 16, 2007

GOTD May 16

Today I was walking around the city, I find it more difficult to open up people who are in the streets, somehow it is easier if you're in a location where there is naturally conversation built in or that just because you two are there in the location that it is okay for you to talk (eg gym, bar, library)

Anyway, because I was in the street, I opened up a girl using a disqualifier opener.

Me: Hey, I like you shoes, I'm thinking of buying my girlfriend a pair of shoes, where did you get yours?
Her: Oh, blah blah, let me ask my friend etc..

She went on to ask her girlfriends about where to get shoes etc...

What I learnt: Disqualifier is quite powerful to disarm someone, if you just want to practice conversations. I could have continued on with the convo by discussing why some girls prefer high heels, while others do not. etc..

Tuesday, May 15, 2007

GOTD May 15

Yeah, I finally did something which I have always thought near impossible or really difficult to do. I opened a girl in the GYM! Today's GOTD is with a HB that frequents the gym that I go to. Here's how it went. I used a variant of an opener that I read from Lance Mason's newsletters. Thanks Lance.

Her: (listening to some music)
Me: (beckoned her to take her earphones off) Hey, I know we're not supposed to talk in the gym, but I just wanted to come and say Hi. What's your name?
Her: blahblah name..
Me: Oh, nice to meet you my name's MAM.

The rest all small talk. Actually I realise that I have quite a lot in common with this girl, I found out quite a fair bit about her. To improve this conversation, I think I could have thrown in this little bit:

"Hey, do you realize how much we have in common? I really think that it is not a coincident that I decided to come and talk to you. Do you believe that things happen for a reason? I really believe that somehow or rather, I was meant to come and talk to you today, and that we're meant to meet somehow."

Anyway, I will be having lots of fun with this opener from now on in the gym. ! :D

Friday, May 11, 2007

FR - met up with PAIR guy + night out at a club

Well, here's a field report of mine, an experience of meeting up with one of the people from PAIR,
as well as some observations and what happened during my night out at the club with this guy. It is kind of a mixed result, but at the end of the day, I believe that I learned a fair bit out of it.

Firstly, description of what happened. I get into my car ready to go to the club, I was pumped up, did the Tony Robbins incantation things, totally in state, I felt like the man, I can open up anyone anywhere and I feel like I have this vibe projecting out of me, my body language was solid, I stood straight, good posture, good walk, everything was perfect. So when I first got there, and finished parking my car, I noticed this two people checking to see how much parking they have to pay.

Immediately I opened with: "It's free" and instantly I can notice that the girl became somewhat attracted to me. I believe this is more towards my voice projection, my body language my posture everything. then I chatted with them a while.

HB: thanks,
Me: I always park here so I know. Where you guys going tonight.
Dude: blah blah this place, for friends performance. So where you going?
Me: (club name)
Dude: Oh I was there last week.
Me: Oh, you go out every week huh?
HB: *chuckle
Me: Let me guess, you guys are University friends right?
HB: Yeah I'm from Uni.

I notice there was some attraction between her and me, as she's so open to answering my questions etc. Anyway, she was with the dude, so I just wished them a good night and went my way.

Arriving at the club, it was still early, and it wasn't open yet so I waited outside. I still had my confident body posture and projecting my vibe, and I notice this group of 4 girls and a guy waiting outside. The guy seems like a badass, but they seem to be looking over at me and I'm pretty sure I heard one of the girls distinctively say "hey" in a loud enough voice to try and catch my attention. Anyway, because the guy seemed like a badass, and the girls were dressed really hot, I felt a bit wussed out, but still I feel good from that validation :D

Now for the not so good bit. I met up with this guy from PAIR. Not to say that the PAIR service isn't good, it just shattered my impression that people trying to learn this stuff are genuinely coming from a place to want to improve themselves. From what I get out of it, this guy just seemed to want to get some cheap thrills. He says he does stuff like grabbing the girls, touching them, trying to find the girl who is open to his advances. Upon further questioning how successful this is, he says he gets flake numbers, and the girls usually leave after doing the dirty dance with him.

Anyway, I noticed something else as well, while at the club, I was stuck in my head again. My body language was poor, and mechanical. I wasn't really moving right somehow in the club. I really wonder why... Is it because I was in my head? I think probably so. This experience of being in the club, and seeing a different light when I'm out with just another guy expanded my experiences a little. Firstly, I really get to observe the people in the club and see what situation it really is and here is what I realized:

1) Girls are a commodity. No matter whether they are hot or not. Reason for this is because me and the PAIR guy didn't manage to get into the first club because we didn't have girls with us.
2) There are really more guys than girls in a club. Today was like 10 to 1 ratio.
3) Some guys are just very grabby in the club, trying to get cheap thrills on the easy women.
4) Most people are there with their bunch of friends, and they're just dancing in their own group.
5) Most guys just stand around doing nothing.
6) Girls are quite exhibitionists, especially when they grind against each other while dancing.
7) It's hard when you don't have some girls with you when you go to the club, and the music is so loud that it is difficult to talk.
8) Hot girls know they have a power over guys in the club.
9) I don't know why I get stuck in my head in the club...over analysing things?? Not being comfortable there? Not sure.
10) Knowing the people that work in the club is a must to get you connected to these things.

So.. I'm wondering now whether it is good for me to go out on my own. Maybe because that will make me less self conscious, and unless I don't meet a cool PAIR guy that we can be good friends and people really don't care whether you're there alone or not, as long as you have a fun time.

Oh and I did one approach in the club, just did the "tap tap" thing, and asked her, What're you drinking? She showed me her drink and went along merrily on her way. Because of this, I realize that in a club, you can really try out a lot of stuff very quickly. Just try out all the openers that you have or anything crazy that you'd like to test out.

Wednesday, May 09, 2007

GOTD May 9th 2007

I did THREE approaches today!! YEAH, I feel good after all of that. It is all about being in state. Anyway, here's what happened:

Approach 1: Girl browsing some posters, went up to her and ask "Hey seen anything good?" She wasn't very chatty and only gave one word answers. She said "Just browsing". Didn't look up, wasn't very receptive, so I just left it at that.

Lesson: Asking questions, especially close ended questions. Not good.

Approach 2: Girl browsing some artsy posters. I opened with: "Hey you must be an arts student right?" She smiled, said no I'm in Dentistry etc.. I chatted with her a bit, told her what kind of posters I liked, and asked her what kind she likes. Just had a normal friendly conversation with her.

Lesson: Mini cold reads are good. I could have talked a bit more about what she studies. Since it is dentistry, I can go on about how dentists make an impact in the world, if there wasn't any dentists, there would be a lot of people with smelly breaths, how kissing would be bad etc..

Approach 3: Girl waiting by the library. I was chatting with an old friend earlier, so I was in pretty good state. Opened with: "Hey you missed it!, Just 2 minutes ago, a bunch of nudists went running by." (which was true) Anyway, I had another friendly conversation with her, found out she is doing teaching but interested in arts.

Lesson: When you're in state, you can do anything! Anyway, I learned that when she asked me back what I studied, I should have been more confident about it. And also realise that you can expand the conversation more, talk about the movie you watched "Mr Holland's opus" about this person who's obsessed about money, but in teaching, but finally realize how many lives he's touched. I can also say something like, you can touch many hearts. Little ones, but nonetheless hearts.

Monday, May 07, 2007

GOTD 7th May

For some reason, I found it really hard to do the Girl of the Day (GOTD) challenge. Basically what I set myself to do is to approach and talk/flirt with one girl a day. So I was sitting down on the bench, totally in my head thinking what to say, what line to approach with, and I realise that is actually making me even MORE nervous, and stuck in my head.

So I decided to walk back to my car to cool off first, and think why I feel the way I did, and I realize that it is ALL ABOUT THE STATE that you're in. When you're in STATE, I can say anything and make it work. It doesn't have to be a line. So from now on.. I have to remember these few realizations and internalize them:

1) It is all about the STATE that I'm in.
2) It is always better to make a statement when you approach rather than ask a question.

I realise this is probably not very profound, but at the point of realizing it, it was pretty profound. So after cooling off in my car, I went and talked briefly to a girl in the elevator, and said Hi to a moving target. Not very fantastic, but then it's a start.

Saturday, May 05, 2007

Melbourne Hotspots

Hot spots in Melbourne

(sourced from MASF Melbourne cities board thanks to Diggler)
  1. The George Hotel in St Kilda on Friday or Saturday nights is full of HB's just waiting for an approach. ((HB7-10)
  2. The Elephant and Wheelbarrow in Bourke St, Melbourne is currently listed as the best PU location in commercial magazines.... typically Saturday nights. This is a great place for new starters to test their sarging.
  3. Mink Bar in st Kilda on Sunday evening is laid back and often loaded with HB's.
  4. The Angler's Tavern in Maribyrnong on a Sunday afternoon from 3pm onwards turns out a great crowd. Plenty (and I mean plenty) of HB's are everywhere.
  5. Agreed that Chadstone Shopping Centre is a great place for PU's. Highpoint is also great, best times are Friday evenings and Saturday/Sunday days.
  6. QBar on a Friday night is full of drunk HB's, good for trying new sarging lines and routines. Honky Tonks is also good on a Saurday night until 3am or so after which the place empties out and only the spaced out chicks are left.
  7. Many of the bars in Brunswick St are great! In particular the Polly Bar which has a great atmosphere for sarging. The NightCat is great for a dance and review the action, but the music often gets too loud to be able to hold down a conversation. The Provicial has plenty of HB's (typically around the 5-8 standard) but is full of typical male hero's!
  8. For some really HB's try Boutique or Frequency in Greville St, Prahran. They range around the HB8-10 range but these are high class babes with attitude!!!
These are from the MASF Melbourne cities board as well, (thanks to Icon7)
  1. The Beach (on st kilda rd not that actual beach) - Sunday is best get there early if you want to be let in, no matter who you are.
  2. Mink - Any day of the weekend early is best to avoid disappointment.
  3. Metropole - It's all relaxed outside cruising and easy to talk.
(thanks to n-style)
  1. Iconbar - meat market
  2. Transport - good place, very easy going chicks, just walk up to anyone in there no probs.

Friday, May 04, 2007

Date with Destiny

This is just to write my experiences on the Date with Destiny programme by Anthony Robbins. By the way, if any of you were considering of going to DWD, GO! It has been the most fantastic experience, I've learnt so much, and the best thing is, he lays out the step by step process that you have to take to achieve the goals you want, hence achieving your destiny.

Anyway, my top 4 one year goals would be to:
1) Be great at meeting women, become good at social situations etc.
2) Go to an Impromptu class
3) Work on getting a salary of 60K at work
4) Finish my website

My life's mission statement:
The purpose of my life is to be my very best, enjoy the beauty of life, and to uplift myself and others.

My new PRIMARY question:
How can I appreciate even more the extraordinary person that I am, and use it to impact myself and others.

I'm BACKK!

It's been a while since my last post, and now it is time to get back into the game. Reason for my absence has been because I got a girlfriend shortly after doing the Stylelife challenge, of course the story is not all rosy and happy after that, because I realise that if I stick with the girl, my growth will stay the same and be stunted.

Anyway, I do feel sad breaking up with my girlfriend of 6 months, and she's really into me too, but it is a choice I have to make. So now is my action plan for the next year. Yes, I have set a one year goal to become better with women, my social life, and for more personal growth.

The plan is to do the Girl of the Day Challenge (GOTD) as suggested by Lance Mason's newsgroup. Basically what it is is that every single day you flirt with the cutest girl you see, logistics be dammed. You don't care what you're doing, don't care what she's doing, all you have to do is to walk up and flirt/talk with her. And after that, give yourself a pat on the back for a job well done. So I'll be doing the GOTD every single day.

Next willl be to meet up with as many PUAs, RAFC, those in the Game, anyone who is learning, go out, and have some fun meeting girls at clubs and bars. This I will do every Friday and Saturday night.

Also, not neglecting taking care of my health, eat healthily and go to the gym 3 times a week.

That should do it, will report back on my travels.. so stay tuned, as this site will start getting busy.

Mini FR
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While doing the GOTD challenge, I talked to a girl in the grocery store promoting a brand of juice.

Me: Hi, can I try one, I'm thirsty.
Her: yeah, we have orange, apple, and mango apple
Me: I'll have mango apple. *drink
Her: So how was it?
Me: Yeah it was pretty good, so what's your favourite?
Her: orange
Me: okay.. thanks, cya later.

In retrospect, I think I had plenty of chances to tease her. Firstly, I should have said "I'm thirsty" sooner without a pause. and also, when she said orange, I could have teased her that she'd have fun out of orange juice, or something along the lines of that she'd never get thirsty.