Tuesday, March 28, 2006

2 weeks after..

Well.. it's a little over 2 weeks since the workshop, and I haven't been doing much practicing sad to say.. Things that I notice if I don't practice consistently is that I start to lose the mood to do so and tend to fall back into old habits... BAD!!! BAD BAD!!!

Anyway, the things that did get stuck into my mind is that my voice is very important, even I'm beginning to lose track of my voice, and begin to sound supplicated.. the difference now is I'm so much more aware of my voice now that I keep consciously trying to speak louder and clearer everytime, but it still feels so alien to me.. But will keep trying..

Another thing been trying to do is to put on 5 more KG... I MUST! put on 5 more KG have more muscular arms, bigger chest, and V shape body and nice shoulders..

Other than that, I'm afraid I'll fall back into my old patterns, but will try everytime.. to keep in mind that I have to try to give playful smile to girls.. and approach and talk.. and most importantly.. make every TRANSACTION into an INTERACTION!!

Well I thought of something today, I think this will only work on lone-wolfs.. interested to try it out someday..

It goes something like this:

Me: Hey can I ask you some questions?
Her: yeah
Me: Which do you think's better? Cats or Dogs?
Her: blah
Me: Which do you like better? Red or blue?
Her: blah
Me: Swimming or cycling?
Her: blah..
Me: Interesting..
Her: why?????
Me: Oh no particular reason.. I just wanted to talk to you a bit, but couldn't think of anything to say to you..

If she stops me in the middle and asks why are you asking me all this.. say, I'll tell you later..

Will try to field test this when I got the opportunity, and I really think this will only work on lone wolves..

Ciaoz now..

Tuesday, March 21, 2006

Choices neg revisited and food stall girl

Hello it's me again :) Good to see so many new faces reading my blog,

anyway, short revisit to the choices neg, I tried it fast this time, but I think I did it too fast, and I didn't make eye contact just said it while pointing at the food I want.

Next time, try making eye contact, raise your eyebrow, say "REALLY?" and then only pick the other one, by saying: "In that case I'll have the other one please"

and food stall girl, while I was buying a potato cake at Flinders St station, the girl at the food stall asked me where I was from?

I looked surprised, said where I was from, and she kinda said yeah you have the look that you're from that country, and I said: "Have you always been noticing guys?"

That drew a smile from her :) But didn't really take it anywhere from there though, I wondered if I could have gotten her phone number by being direct about it..

Anyway, that felt good :)

Good nite!!!

Saturday, March 18, 2006

Blonde shit tests revisited

Yo.. watsup??

This is just a revisit of one of the shit tests that I got from the blonde which went something like:

Blonde: Hey it's him again.. he's that guy blah blah
Me: (stunned) and said something that gets me blown out..

So what happened today was I subconsciously used the same line from the blondes on a girl that comes to visit our house from time to time, probably interested in my housemate or something..
Me: Oh it's YOU again!
Her: Yeah that's because I missed you...

Shit test defused.. very cool, and she said it in a comfortable way.. will remember to try this sometime..

I can even riff of this theme by saying stuff like:

"Yeah, I dreamt about you last night even before I met you, what did you do to me? Did you slip something into my drink?? "

Friday, March 17, 2006

Started convo with 2

Well, 1 week after the course.. time really flies, and I've really begun to notice that I'm beginning to see the world with a different light. Everything seems better, and I'm getting this frame of mind that every girl wants me and I am capable of getting any girl at all.

I really think that this positive attitude of mine is noticeable by people as I really can tell that I'm giving out positive vibes and everything seems to be falling in place nicely :)

Also, I'm always noticing my tone of voice and making sure I make a conscious effort to talk louder at all times, as well as I'm always thinking of ways to open girls.. and when I think of one which is roughly good, I open without hesitation...

For example today I talked to two girls which I would never have done before, and I really surprised myself.. here's how it went and how I can improve further..

Babe 1 (7.5)
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Happened to be in the same elevator with her, just the two of us, and I was just on my way to get some lunch.
Me: "I'm feeling really hungry, What do you think's good around here"
Her: (laughs) "Blah blah this I'm going this place to meet my friends"
Me: "Blah blah"

I didn't get much attraction going for this one though, just normal convo, not sure whether she's available or not, but she's a real attractive girl in my workplace.. if she's single I think I can get her :)

How to improve from here: I think since this girl's in my workplace and I'll most likely see her more often, will just practice C&F with her and take it easy and test her interest levels and see..

Babe 2 (7)
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There was some incident in the train today which was delayed for about 10 minutes.
Me: Hey did you know what happened on the train just now?
Her: I don't know.. What happened?
Me: Oh, I heard people saying that there was a girl lying on the floor.

and that was it.. I got a better reaction out of this one though, she seems open for a chat, and again I cut off short. I think I could have followed up with something like:

Me: Yeah, isn't it scary? Don't you think that this seems like a good start for a horror film? and we're all characters in the movie. I can be the hero in the film, and you can be my sidekick..
blah blah..

Me: Ask some comfort questions like, So you don't sound Australian, Where are you from?
Studying? etc.. but remember not to make it "interview style"

Tuesday, March 14, 2006

Choices neg

Was trying out the choices neg today on a takeaway food shop girl.

Basically the choices neg goes something like this:
Me: So which one do you think is better? The spicy chicken or the teriyaki chicken?
Her: The spicy chicken is better.
Me: Ok, in that case I'll go with the teriyaki chicken.

Tried it out today, but realised that it's important to say it almost immediately after the she says her choice.. so that it doesn't taper down and lose it's lustre.

Will test it out everytime I get food or any situation that seems fitting. All part of my exercise to make every transaction an interaction.

The girl that I tried out was a cute girl from China. Which I found out by saying:

Me: So you're from Hong Kong right?
Her: No I'm from China.

I think it's better to make an assumption and ask a question rather than ask directly "So where are you from?" So it doesn't seem like you're questioning, and it will seem like you're reading into her, which is more interesting.

Mini sarge attempt today
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So there was this girl who just missed a tram that I wanted to get on as well.
So this is what happened:

Me: Just missed the tram yeah?
Her: Yeah
Me: If I had gotten my foot on the door, you'll have gotten in as well.
Her: Ok..

Thinking about me.. I shouldn't have said about the getting my foot in the door bit, probably it's better to just have started off like this:

Me: Just missed the tram yeah?
Her: Yeah..
Me: Oooh, I bet your lecturer's going to get angry with you now, he's going to give extra homework!

If I do it this way, then it'll seem like I'm reading into her that she's still a student and she's going to get into big trouble.

Saturday, March 11, 2006

MM workshop part 2

This is the end.. For every ending, there will be a new beginning. Which is what this blog will be about today, to document the last day of the MM seminar.. The beginning will be a major revamp of my life.. which is what the MM seminar has made me realise. In these two days, I've experienced stuff that I'll never even dream of experiencing. This morning, I woke up from the previous night's MM workshop, and I just thought to myself.. "was that a dream??" It really had that powerful impact on me.

Okay, here goes day 2:

First stop, met my coach at Metropol, went for dinner, and met up with another coach and his client. Both coaches agreed that I really need to work on my voice projection. I never have realised how important that is until today, I've heard Jeffy from RSD talk about it, but never would have thought how badly it is affecting me until I get comments from these coaches.

Well I'm seriously considering either getting a voice coach, or singing lessons or something to fix it, or start doing the exercises from the Speech book that I have.

I did an exercise where we started talking to each other by standing really far away from each other and just talking really loud to each other.. That was real fun expecially when we're getting all the smiles from passerbys thinking what the hell are we doing?? That's was pretty cool, but it does hammer down the importance of me getting over talking soft and projecting a confident and strong masculine voice.

Then we started to walk along Fitzroy st, opening and approaching.. the other client's much better than I am at it, can hold the set for much longer time than I can. The biggest problem that I'm having with opening sets are just not being in my head and just let everything go and just converse and vibe normally. What I did tonight was more of just asking questions.. I even got a point where these two girls just blatantly said that "I feel like I'm being interviewed"

Important thing to note here today is about riffing off topics. I have to be able to do that, and not just ask normal boring questions.. which will come off as conducting an interview.

So nothing much in terms of attraction building, most if not all the time my conversations bordered around:
1) What's happening?
2) What are your plans tonight?
3) How do you all know each other?
4) What are you drinking?

Answers to which I can't expand on, or maybe not good enough to trail to topics which I'm more confident of talking about. Most of these conversations lead to stuff like bars and clubs, and alcoholic drinks, which is better etc.. which I have absolutely no idea about, so probably that plays a major factor into why I can't riff of them. Or maybe I have to think of ways to say whatever they say and move onto another conversational thread that's more easy to talk to for me.

Another reason which I think may be a factor would be that I can't read into Australians at all, I don't know their life, I don't know what might be running through their mind, I don't know their interests, and therefore can't riff off topics....

Well anyway, highlights of blown outs include:

1) Blondes 2x
2) Interview
3) Eating 2 x
4) Husband
5) Aussie asians

Things I learnt
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1) Importance of not using routines, I can see now why depending on routines can be bad, firstly, if you can't convey it properly, it'll seem incongruent and you'll be blown out straight away. I realise this as my questions are sort of becoming routines for me, I don't have anything else, and my brain sort of stays fixed into a pattern which I've grown comfortable resulting in blownout after blownout. But then I still think sometimes routines can be used but have to be used sparingly and only if you can deliver it congruently.

2) Don't come across as interviewing, I think to do that, I'll have to mix in questions and statements. Therefore I have to have some relevant stories to tell for club situations. Which is something i'll have to prepare. Also MAKE more statements!!

3) You really have to assess and calibrate yourself first before going for the approach. This is to judge what sort of people you're approaching and therefore calibrate your energy level and what you're going to approach with. I realise this after approaching the Docklands high class chick, and also the Greek people.. totally different from the Blondes.. and others..

4) When people are eating.. just talk for a little while and then move on. Don't stay too long.

5) VOICE Projection!! very important, probably have to find a voice coach.

6) IMPROVISATION class? probably thinking of taking that up, since I can't seem to riff off things.. and just accepting their answer as it is.

7) Smiling.. important to do it at the right moment... especially when telling a routine or doing something similar so that it's light hearted and people know that it's a joke.

8) C&F lines.. USE IT WITH CONGRUENCY.. you cannot start off with rapport rapport and then suddenly C&F all of a sudden.. you have to be playful and animated at the start, and then only when you throw in the C&F it'll be normal. Also.. C&Fs should be thrown in without hesitation.. or else it'll come across as you're trying to remember some line.. also USE WITH CARE.. not all lines work for me.. somehow, maybe because I'm not in character or they're just not suitable for Aussie girls.. for example, the line that I thought was C&F before when people say I look familiar and I'll tell them is that a pickup line? DOES NOT WORK!!

9) Realise that most of the asians here are ABC!! and treat them accordingly like an Aussie not what you would this it is!!

10) Power of belief, you really have to believe that women want you as strongly as you believe that 1 + 1 = 2

11) When talking to service people, make it an INTERACTION not a transaction. They are usually bored when every single day people just say the same thing, so if you make their life livelier, they'll definitely feel better.

12) Be more worldly in knowledge, experience more go out more and talk to people more, you'll definitely find out more things and can express yourself better.

Cool lines heard
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1) In the two set that I was talking to, when one of them said that "He's OUR husband", I should have responded with: "Oh my god, he's such an UN-lucky guy, most guys have trouble dealing with just one girl, and he has both of you!"

2) With the blondes, I realise now how heavily they were shit testing me. Anyway, I think I responded pretty well when they girl said I should buy her a drink. She went: "You should buy me a drink and sing her a song" and I said: "Why don't you buy ME a drink and I'll sing her a song". And she responded with: "I don't buy guys drinks" Luckily I didn't back down because if I did, then it would have been worse. I could have followed up with: "What's the deal with girls wanting gender equality yada yada, here's your chance to prove that by buying ME a drink."

3) Heard this from my coach if I'm sarging at the gym. Stand and look at a girl, when she's done, say: I bet you can do Xkg more..

Interesting things which happened
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1) At one point the waitress at the coffee shop came by to my coach and suddenly said: "I don't want to play any more games."

2) Met this asian dude called Mark, which is so much more in tune with his reality than me eventhough I'm bigger and taller than he is, he's so much more confident and better at girls than I am.

Friday, March 10, 2006

MM lifestyle workshop

Hello my avid reader fans out there.. betcha been waiting for this post.. well here it is!!

I'm pretty tired so I'll just be rambling on and not bothering to edit what I write..

Let's see.. we started off at a bar let's call it P3 and the first thing I had to work on was voice projection. Which was something I needed to work on as I'm pretty soft spoken, which is a no no in a bar and club situation with loud music going on. Well at P3 I firstly did a 3 set, and then a 2 set later before bouncing off to another Fitzroy st.

At Fitzroy, we went to some clubs and some bars, I can't remember them all, but I think it's called Metropol and Felix, and .. some others..

Well anyway.. here are some of the openers I used, most of them were to just to create rapport, I didn't do much interactions but got shit tests as well..

Openers
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1) Hey guys what's up? What's happenin here? What are you guys doing tonight?

Follow up questions
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1) What have you got planned for tonight?
2) Commonwealth games coming up, you going? and into swimming? I think you guys would be great with synchronized swimming.
3) How do you guys know each other?
4) etc.. and just following up with whatever they say..

Closing off
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1) Hey nice chatting with you, I've got to get back to my friends.. catcha later.
2) Nice meeting you ciaoz..

Shit tests
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1) We're here to meet nice guys like you..

--> Hey, hold it, I'm not a nice guy... I'm a good guy.

2) Guys brain are really simple

--> So why are you attracted to guys anyway??

3) You're really forward aren't you?

--> Yeah, so what do you like about forward men?

Recollection of approaches
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Plateform 3
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Approach 1 --> 3 set, I just walked up, took a seat and started the opener.. nothing great there.

Approach 2 --> 2 set, just asking which bars are good around here, they mentioned a few, public bath, and lalaland etc.. and chapel st..

Public bath
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Approach 3 --> ?? Can't remember

Metropol, Felix etc..
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Most of the shit tests were from more mature women, that I talked to, they tend to know what's going on, and they're just controlling it more than me. Scary..

Others were pretty normal all rapport building, but nothing much of attraction. Next night focusing on attraction. Met up with Dan as well.

Stuff that I learned
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1) Voice projection.. talk LOUDER!!!!!!
2) When to approach, have to wait for the right time.. not when the body language is closed off, but when it's more open to approach. Also have to look out and think where you're going to sit or stand.. and just go in there.
3) Catch their attention by saying HEY!!.. (works most of the time)
4) If people are dancing.. it's harder to catch their attention and talk to them, cos they're just out there to have fun and enjoy themselves.
5) Have to tease them... but I'm still not very good at that.. the only way to do that is to be more social do it more.. get more shit tests.. and then think of these situations and how you would best improve on them.
6) Everytime before I approach, I get the fear of approaching, but after I approach... I realise it's okay.. which is a realization that I have to keep with me at all times..
7) Body language.. always lean in closer when you talk to your target after a while, but do it at an angle, and close it if you have good rapport
8) If there is a 2 set, then what you do is.. engage both sets, but you have to position yourself so that you can interact with both, don't just leave one hanging.
9) Body language.. stand with one foot in front, and you're sort of leaning backwards on the other foot when you talk to your sets
10) Cocking of eyebrows when you talk to convey emotion.

Smooth lines that I heard from my coach
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1) Yeah I've been out dating all these girls tonight, but I just had to come back here because I miss you so much..
2) Responses to the shit tests that I had, just reframe it as them wanting to be with you.
3) I'm the guy that puts the stickers on the apples.
4) You know what.. I think you two would be great with synchronised swimming.
5) So both of you are housemates! So who does the cooking around here? Who's a better cook?
6) So are you both working together? So both of you probably get in trouble with your boss because you talk too loud.. Where are your carrels? Is it like you have a guy squashed in between your carrells and he has to put up with all your talking??

Saturday, March 04, 2006

Something to think about..

So yesterday night two of my friends and I wanted to go clubbing.. It's my first time clubbing since about 3 years ago? maybe.. back when I didn't know anything about the community. But we ended up not going into the club as the queue is too long.. Next time though, maybe I should polish chatting up strangers outside the club, as there were quite many pretty girls outside as well, and I notice that everyone are in their own groups of friends.,

Anyway, that's not what my post is mainly about.. so after going to the club which we didn't end up going to., I ended up at one of my friend's place, and then started talking about an interesting sticking point which I think I have.

According to my friend, it's better to just "get" someone for the experience of it, and grow and learn from it. It doesn't really matter that you might feel guilty that you're "using" the person, as if you don't do it.. someone else will, and why not let that person be you..

I thought about that, and I realise that there are many girls that are in my league, which I really didn't put the effort to attract and seduce as I feel it's too much trouble and somehow I feel that if I really do put in the effort, I can "get" her.. but instead spend time day dreaming about getting girls out of my league..

So the question now is.. is it better to just practice on as many girls are possible and try to proceed as far as possible with each girl regardless.. or is it better to only do it when you've got genuine interest be it only physical or emotional or both...

Will check masf or find out what the Modern men think..