Fri + Sat + Thursday Gym

okay, Friday and Saturday was a bit of a mix results but here goes:

Friday - today I decided to test out the differences between natural game and canned game. Firstly what I have begun to notice was that my canned opener is failing to work, and I think it is most likely because of the way I'm coming across, so that's why I've been testing out natural opener like "How's it going?" and "are you guys having fun tonight?" Interestingly both these openers dont' get me anywhere too! But then I manage to learn more in the sense about what girls are thinking whenever guys approach them in the bars and clubs which is "This guy just wants to sleep with me" Today all in all I did about 6 approaches.

Saturday - today I think I did about 4 approaches only. Had the chance to meet up with Greg another PUA and did some interesting approaches together. His style is very casual and laid back, and most girls just open up to talk to him. What I learn from Greg is that you have to respect the girl's space, and to really approach in a non threatening way, not like you're trying to force yourself in, but naturally and calmly like you would approach a cat.

Thursday gym - Today I did 2 approaches. The one at the gym was the best because I could feel the sexual tension building and her attraction towards me, although I failed to # close her. I'm still puzzled why I failed to # close her. Anyway, I saw her lifting barbells which were only 2 kgs, so I said to her.. I think you can do more you know and teased her about having muscles. What I think I did right was that, firstly there was eye contact and a smile, then I waited for her to finish her set before talking to her briefly, teased her a little and then walked off. Later while I was doing my situps, she came to the same spot, chose to sit next to my exercise mat and did her situps. I continued chatting with her, and she restarted the convo with me a few times, and did ask me some questions about myself, so I was pretty sure that it was ON, but then don't know why she left after I had the chance to # close. Oh well.... the main thing was that I learned something important which is:

1) Smile, and project positive vibe around you
2) Eye contact then smile then approach is very powerful
3) Project happy vibe.. always project a happy cheerful vibe and girls will open up to talk to you.

Total: 12 approaches.

Cold duck feet and argentinian food scientist

Did two GOTD approaches today, first one was just a strange one, for me to test out new stuff.. Asking the girl whether she thought the ducks at Albert park feel cold in winter or not

Next one was outside the library, where she went out for a ciggie, so I walked up and had a nice convo with her. Found out she was from argentina, what she was studying, joked around a little bit. Said that I did creative dance as my uni degree, which made her eyes light up, (I think I should change it to exotic dancing, to be more obvious that I was joking)

Anyway, was good fun, and I should do this more!!!!

Fri + Sat night out

Friday night
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I hung out with my wing, in the St Kilda areas and did 5 approaches tonight. It was a pretty slow night as it was quite cold and foggy out, but yeah I have learned a fair bit tonight as well.

I did 3 approaches at Metropol and 2 approaches at Traffik. The main lesson that I learn was that opinion openers don't work that well anymore.. and I'm starting to wonder why, I used the same opener, and for these past two days they don't work very well at all, I wonder if I'm starting to give off a creepy pickup vibe.

Anyway, the first approach I did at Metropol went like this:

ME: opener....
Her: Why don't you go ask those guys over there?

Translation: It is so obvious that you are asking us this because you want to pickup, and so go talk to someone else.

I got a similar vibe from others as well, once more in Traffik.
Although I did come face to face with a girl with the persona in Traffik, had to deal with a lot of tests.... I ejected after a while though, because it wasn't going into a fun direction.

Lessons to be learned here are:
1) What sort of vibe are you giving off? The cool guy vibe that is having fun and enjoying himself or the creepy pickup guy vibe?
2) You have to feel comfortable in the club to give off the confident vibe, if not people can pick up on it.

Saturday night
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Today's another big night out with the melb lair guys. And I learned a lot as well today. First big thing that I learned was watching the guys who are really good. I noticed that they give off a very confident vibe, and wasn't running around the club so-called "working" the club.

My fav Brad Pitt opener didn't work well again today. What did work was opening with statements. The two statements that I tried was something like:

"Hey guys, it is illegal to be talking among yourself in the club, / waiting for something to happen / etc...."

"Hey I thought I'd be social and come talk to you guys.."

Big lessons that I learn today:
1) Girls are always thinking that all the guys are coming up to talk to them because they want a piece of their ass.
2) The context between day time and night time has changed, so that is why opinion openers work well during the day time. During the day time, girls primary question are: "Why is this guy talking to me?" So if you ask an opinion, then it justifies that. During the night though, they have the perception that: "All guys coming to talk to me asking me weird questions because they just want a piece of my ass." So this really makes me wonder whether my opinion openers don't work anymore because of the vibe I'm throwing off or whether it is because it just plainly does not work in the club because of the context.
3) Opening with statements are more effective in the club, and being the normal social fun guy is more effective. Giving off a cool fun vibe is more effective.

So tonight, I did another 5 approaches, and I think I have my first DHV story. What happened during one of my approaches was this: I was having a slow night, and building up my momentum, when I noticed these two girls sitting alone, not talking to each other. So I went up to them and said "Hey I thought I'd be social and come and talk to you guys" When I did that immediately to the far left, a bunch of guys starting laughing... I instantly knew that I have fallen into a trap that they were playing, seeing how many people would walk up and talk to their female friends.. So I ignored that, chatted with the girls for a while, wished them a fun night and walked away. Later that night, this guy ushered me, walked up to me and asked me to rejoin their group saying: Hey we LIKE you man!, Come and join us,.. So I joined them and it was really funny, I found out where they're from, etc...

And I got a number close tonight as well!!! Met this girl, she was really friendly, none of that persona that others have put up, so I was wondering whether it is because this person is friendly which I think is the case, or whether my approach with the others is wrong or is a combination of both. YEAH.. and the number was solid as well! What I think I did right, after getting the number, I talked to her for a bit, showed her the lying game. I did kino, but doing the handshakes, and vibed with her, found out about her etc.. gave her a reason for me to take the phone number, said how rare it is for me to meet someone that I can really connect with.

Summary
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So now I'm wondering what sort of approach should I be taking.. I really feel like I should be focusing on having a fun time at the club, and not caring whether I do my 5 approaches or not.. eventhough I have to keep it at the back of my mind to do so. Rule of thumb:

1) 3 second rule, just approach, keep approaching to build momentum and get into the talkative social vibe.
2) Don't worry about not having things to say, there will be plenty of things to say.
3) Opinion openers..... scrap it???

Not just cyclists wear tights

Today's GOTD, at the gym, saw this girl working out wearing tights, and I just so happened to be filling up my water at the water cooler. At the exact point in time she puts down her dumbells for a short break, I immediately opened with..

Me: Hey, you must be a cyclist right?
Her: (laughs) No, I'm not, why do you say that?
Me: Oh because I know a lot of cyclists usually wear tights, and you're wearing one.
Her: (laughs) No, it's because it is cold outside..

It was a short interaction, but I made a girl SMILE! which is the whole point :D

FR: Fri + Sat night out

Friday night
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Met up with a PUA from one of the forums, bounced around from bar to bar, and in total did about 7 approaches.

1st approach -> mixed girl half malaysian so got pretty good connection with her.
One lesson that I think I learnt here is about doing the "YES, and...." not the "No but..." This came up because I was chatting with her friend for a bit, and they mentioned that they were going to Metro. So what I did was I asked him, so you like the Techno music there or the RNB, and he lighted up when I said Techno, and so he asked me whether I liked Techno too, but I said No.. and I can see him a bit disappointed with that. So the lesson of the day is.... just go "Yes and...." to continue the conversation

Can't really remember all the approaches I did, because they didn't really go too far. But the few lessons I realized were:

1) At one point I asked the bartender which places would be good to go around here. She said "I wouldn't have a clue" eventhough I'm pretty sure she would. But then in hindsight I realized that it would be a bit out of place to ask a bartender that question
2) Another interesting one was when I opened a girl, and a guy instantly went up to talk to me. Found out that they were with a whole bunch of friends surrounding me like about 20 of them, and all of them had their attention on me talking to my target which made the girl uncomfortable. Anyway, got out of that situation, I wonder how would one handle that situation.
3) Another one I opened a two set outside guys toilet. It went like this:

Me: Hey just wondering why are you guys hanging outside the guys toilet?
Her: Why do you ask?
Me: Just curious.

It didn't go too well after that. In hindsight I think I should have said something stronger like:
"Hey why are you guys perving outside the guys toilet?"
Or gave a better reply like:
"Well, I'm concerned of my own safety"

Saturday Day Game
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Another fruitful day, met up with melb lair guys, kwiksilva, blackout, chau, manic, lots of other dudes. Did about 7 sets maybe more and # closed one girl :D

Anyway, day game is fun as usual, without all the distractions of loud music.
Some of the openers I used are:

1) shopping for shoes, pointed ones or the tapered ones, because pointed ones show the direction a man is going to therefore perceived to be more masculine
2) magazines men and womens magazines have pictures of beautiful girls in them
3) Hey you're pretty cute, so I decided to come and talk to you.
4) Johnny Depp or Orlando Bloom
5) Angelina Jolie or Jennifer Aniston

One important thing I learned, (thanks to Blackout) was about number closing. You have to give a reason to number close, either in the conversation you plan something ahead in time, or qualify her to you so that the number close becomes legitimate.

In the case of the jap girl that I number closed, I told her how easy it was to talk to her, plus we had wide rapport, talking about quite a fair bit of things, and also told her how she should go shoe shopping with me one day.

Fri + Sat total 14 approaches. Thurs + Sun didn't do any.. dammit, don't be a lazy ass..!

Why do you ask?

Today's GOTD, was just something I wanted to get over with so that I could go home and watch some DYD videos. Anyway, I think I should always keep up the enthusiasm to talk to girls, but apparently my enthusiasm did show through as after I asked the Brad Pitt question, she asked me.. Why do you ask?

I told her it was for my own personal amusement and she laughed. But I also thought that Herbal's reply to that was pretty okay as well, "Dammit, Because these things matter!"

DYD teaches: Single/Not or Happy/Not

One of the things I learnt from watching David D's Mastery Series is something he says about quickly identifying whether a woman is:

A) Single and Happy
B) Single and Unhappy
C) Not Single and Happy
D) Not Single and Unhappy

I think it is a good skill to just quickly pick out where this girl is at so that you know where you can take things with her. To cultivate this skill, David also talks about asking the girl later, after you've tried guessing her situation.

She's married with 3 kids

Hello,

Just a quick update to my blog, about today's GOTD, I decided to name my title's with more interesting subjects. Anyway, today I had trouble finding chicks to talk to. So just walked up to a group of women and since there was this theatrical thing going on, asked them what it was about, turns out the woman I was talking to has kids who's doing the children's play at that time. hehe..

Anyway, same deal, good posture, body language and voice tone today which opened up the set and made them receptive of me.

Fri + Sat Sarge nites + Sun and Mon GOTD

This might be a pretty long post so get ready...

Friday night was sarging with 2 PUAs from the Sarge forum. Great guys, and another great night out. I did a total of about 6 to 7 approaches, I'll count it as 6 to be safe. What I learnt from this night out is being comfortable and treating the club as if you OWN the place. If you treat it like you OWN the club and that you want to make sure that everyone in it is having a good time, then you give off a vibe that you're comfortable of where you're at. This is good as it reflects in the way you walk, your smile, and the way you dance.

Places we went were OnderGrounds, Velour, 6 links, The Joint

Saturday nite, met up with another guy who did a ModernMan course. Another great night out, I did a total of 7 approaches, and most of the girls were very receptive of me, and I manage to cut through an asian girl who was really giving a lot of shields coming up. Which was pretty fun, because I treated her like a little kid anyway..

My last set was pretty good because I came up with something original that made her smile. She was sitting on a bench, and my wing and I sat down on the same bench. She was with her friends, and her friends were dancing while she was just watching.

I tapped her on her shoulder, she turned around and I asked: "Why aren't you dancing.?" (In my head I was expecting her to ask me the same question because I myself wasn't dancing) She replied maybe later.. and sure enough, asked me back "Why aren't you dancing?" I looked at her smiled and said "Because I don't have anyone to dance with" Kind of implying that we should dance then.... Then she turned back and said that I should dance with my friend (my wing) and I looked at her with a little laugh and said "You're funny". Anyway, that was a small little moment there but it was still fun.

Things I learnt on this night was that I have to try to either push for the number close or push for the mini date. Try and push for the mini date first and then push for the number close. This should be able to take me to the next level. If I'm comfortable with girls and getting them laughing all the time, then this is the next step that I have to take.

Places we went were: LongRoom, The joint, OnderGround, We tried to get into CQBar and GPO but changed our minds.

Sunday was pretty good at the gym because the girl that I opened with my gym opener was laughing all the time and I kept up a pretty good vibe teasing her, and I could tell she was attracted. Things I did well was to lead the conversation, smile and give off positive vibes, and kept her laughing with my little jokes.

Monday, I approached a girl in Safeway asking her "Hey do you think those tomato based pasta is better or those cream based ones" She was pretty into the conversation, she first asked me whether it was for a girl. I was a bit taken aback by that question. I wished I've said Yes, because it would have made the conversation all the more interesting. But then again, what I did well was opened strongly, positive vibe, strong voice.. good posture etc..

Well all in all 15 approaches over 4 days.. pretty good :D